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=== Definition ===
=== Definition ===
 
* Both are [[Sehgal Rubrics]]
* Both are [[Sehgal First Degree Rubrics]]
* [[Sehgal]] has a good differentiation between these two rubrics
* Segal has a good differentiation between these two rubrics
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* Cling patient is some one who is attached to you. It has two sub-rubrics
!Carried
 
!Clinging
* Clinging, held: The patient praise you. He tells that you are the best doctor and he does not leave you until complete treatment. He clings your personality/ Specialty / Kindness / Energy. In this situation the patient insist on his desire and do not leave you even if you disclaim him
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* Carried desire is a patient that request your treatment / Protection. So first he ask you then come to visit you but cling patient does not ask you, he come and do not leave you until complete treatment
|Carried is a [[Sehgal Second Degree Rubrics|Sehgal Second Degree Rubric]]
|Clinging is a [[Sehgal First Degree Rubrics|Sehgal First Degree Rubric]]
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* When someone wants to be carried by others. He asks them to be carried continuously. He does not do anything only begging. He does not touch anybody only repeating his request
* Carried uses "Desire" NOT "Want" which means fewer necessity.
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*Cling patient is someone who is attached to you.
*Clinging means Sticking tightly with no idea of leaving it as long as one's faith allows it. It is much more stronger than Carrying.
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|Carry has a hide concept of moving but Cling has not. It means that the patient needs support for becoming or achieving a goal.
|Cling means the patient feels very insecure, which makes him cling to Someone / Something not necessarily for becoming but also for being
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|Carried means Pulled, Pushed, Induced by an external stimuli such as Remedy / Advice / Doctor
|He clings your personality/ Specialty / Kindness / Energy. In this situation the patient insist on his desire and do not leave you even if you disclaim him
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|In adults he may tell the doctor, I do not know why, but I think you should cure me. You should give me a good medicine
|The patient says, I will not leave you until you make me better / Cure
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|Carried desire is a patient that request your treatment / Protection. So first he ask you then come to visit you
|cling patient does not ask you, he come and do not leave you until complete treatment
|-
|Carried has sub-rubrics of Fast, Slow and Caressed. All of them linked with movement.
|It has two sub-rubrics
* Clinging, held: The patient praise you. He tells that you are the best doctor and he does not leave you until complete treatment. \
* "Clinging, to persons or furniture" is a [[Sehgal First Degree Rubrics|Sehgal First Degree Rubric.]] It differ from Clinging which has no extra words, which means the patient has not been located in the situation of clinging yet.
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=== Remedies ===
=== Remedies ===


* Both [[Gels, Gelsemium sempervirens|Gels]] and [[Stram, Stramonium|Stram]] has clinging. But the underlying reason is different.  
* Both [[Gels, Gelsemium sempervirens|Gels]] and [[Stram, Stramonium|Stram]] has clinging. But the underlying reason is different.  
* [[Stram, Stramonium|Stram]] is freighted but [[Gels, Gelsemium sempervirens|Gels]] understands that you are an appropriate person and could help him.  
** [[Stram, Stramonium|Stram]] is freighted and that's why he clings you.
* Also Gels need reassurance and it is enough for him to cling you.
** [[Gels, Gelsemium sempervirens|Gels]] understands that you are an appropriate person and could help him. He wants positive light. He clings you because you told him that you can Help / Cure him. He clings you because of your assurance. So when you tell him that there is no cure, he will leave you.  Gels need reassurance continuously.


=== Rubrics ===
=== Rubrics ===
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* Clinging, Persons or furniture: Bar-c, Borx, Cina, Gels, Phos, Puls, Stram
* Clinging, Persons or furniture: Bar-c, Borx, Cina, Gels, Phos, Puls, Stram
* Clinging, children, awaken, terrified: Borx, Stram
* Clinging, children, awaken, terrified: Borx, Stram
* Carries desire: Cham, stram,  
* Carries desire: Ars, Bell, Cham, Cina, Kali-c, lyc, Puls, Stram, Sul, Verat
* Carries desire, fasr: Ars, bell, Verat
* Carries desire, fast: Ars, bell, Verat
* Carries desire, slowly: Puls
* Carries desire, slowly: Puls
* Carries desire and Caressed: Acon, Cham, Kreos, Puls

Revision as of 23:20, 11 May 2024

Definition

Carried Clinging
Carried is a Sehgal Second Degree Rubric Clinging is a Sehgal First Degree Rubric
  • When someone wants to be carried by others. He asks them to be carried continuously. He does not do anything only begging. He does not touch anybody only repeating his request
  • Carried uses "Desire" NOT "Want" which means fewer necessity.
  • Cling patient is someone who is attached to you.
  • Clinging means Sticking tightly with no idea of leaving it as long as one's faith allows it. It is much more stronger than Carrying.
Carry has a hide concept of moving but Cling has not. It means that the patient needs support for becoming or achieving a goal. Cling means the patient feels very insecure, which makes him cling to Someone / Something not necessarily for becoming but also for being
Carried means Pulled, Pushed, Induced by an external stimuli such as Remedy / Advice / Doctor He clings your personality/ Specialty / Kindness / Energy. In this situation the patient insist on his desire and do not leave you even if you disclaim him
In adults he may tell the doctor, I do not know why, but I think you should cure me. You should give me a good medicine The patient says, I will not leave you until you make me better / Cure
Carried desire is a patient that request your treatment / Protection. So first he ask you then come to visit you cling patient does not ask you, he come and do not leave you until complete treatment
Carried has sub-rubrics of Fast, Slow and Caressed. All of them linked with movement. It has two sub-rubrics
  • Clinging, held: The patient praise you. He tells that you are the best doctor and he does not leave you until complete treatment. \
  • "Clinging, to persons or furniture" is a Sehgal First Degree Rubric. It differ from Clinging which has no extra words, which means the patient has not been located in the situation of clinging yet.

Remedies

  • Both Gels and Stram has clinging. But the underlying reason is different.
    • Stram is freighted and that's why he clings you.
    • Gels understands that you are an appropriate person and could help him. He wants positive light. He clings you because you told him that you can Help / Cure him. He clings you because of your assurance. So when you tell him that there is no cure, he will leave you. Gels need reassurance continuously.

Rubrics

  • Clinging, Persons or furniture: Bar-c, Borx, Cina, Gels, Phos, Puls, Stram
  • Clinging, children, awaken, terrified: Borx, Stram
  • Carries desire: Ars, Bell, Cham, Cina, Kali-c, lyc, Puls, Stram, Sul, Verat
  • Carries desire, fast: Ars, bell, Verat
  • Carries desire, slowly: Puls
  • Carries desire and Caressed: Acon, Cham, Kreos, Puls