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=== Definition ===
=== Definition ===
* Both are [[Sehgal Rubrics]]
* [[Sehgal]] has a good differentiation between these two rubrics
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=== Cling ===
[[Sehgal First Degree Rubrics|Sehgal First Degree Rubric]]
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=== Carried ===
[[Sehgal Second Degree Rubrics|Sehgal Second Degree Rubric]]
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* In clinging he even not knows the doctor can cure him or not, He only knows the doctor from his friend recommendation or from advertisement
* He has no idea of leaving you as long as his faith allows it. It is much more stronger than Carrying.
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*There is NO touch. There is no grasp
*He only request someone to be with him
*He asks the Doctor to cure him, since he thinks this doctor has good experience and so trustful.
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*He is attached to you like a sticker because
**He is terrified
**He has no more strength, he need serious help
**He is magnetized to someone Energy/ Good behavior / God / Doctor
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*He asks to be carried continuously.
* He does not do anything only [[begging]].
* He does not touch anybody only repeating his request
* Carried uses "Desire" NOT "Want" which means fewer necessity.
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|Totally dependent and could not be alive dependently.
|Not so independent and should be carried by someone to reach some destination
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|Cling means the patient feels very insecure, which makes him cling to Someone / Something not necessarily for becoming but also for being
|Carry has a hide concept of moving but Cling has not. It means that the patient needs support for becoming or achieving a goal.
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|He clings your personality/ Specialty / Kindness / Energy. In this situation the patient insist on his desire and do not leave you even if you disclaim him
|Carried means Pulled, Pushed, Induced by an external stimuli such as Remedy / Advice / Doctor
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|I will not leave you until you make me better / Cure
|I do not know why, but I think you should cure me. You should give me a good medicine
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|Cling patient does not ask you, he come and do not leave you until complete treatment
|Patient request your treatment / Protection. So first he ask you then come to visit you
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|It has two sub-rubrics
* Clinging, held: The patient praise you. He tells: You are the best doctor and he does not leave you until complete treatment.
* Clinging, to persons or furniture Bar-c, Borx, Cina, Gels, Phos, Puls, Stram It differ from Clinging which has no extra words, which means the patient has not been located in the situation of clinging yet.
* Clinging, children, awaken, terrified: Borx, Stram
|Carried has sub-rubrics of Fast, Slow and Caressed. All of them linked with movement.


* Both are [[Sehgal First Degree Rubrics]]
*Carries desire: Ars, Bell, Cham, Cina, Kali-c, lyc, Puls, Stram, Sul, Verat
* Segal has a good differentiation between these two rubrics
* Carries desire, fast: Ars, bell, Verat
 
* Carries desire, slowly: Puls
* Cling patient is some one who is attached to you. It has two sub-rubrics
* Carries desire and Caressed: Acon, Cham, Puls
 
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* Clinging, held: The patient praise you. He tells that you are the best doctor and he does not leave you until complete treatment. He clings your personality/ Specialty / Kindness / Energy. In this situation the patient insist on his desire and do not leave you even if you disclaim him
* Carried desire is a patient that request your treatment / Protection. So first he ask you then come to visit you but cling patient does not ask you, he come and do not leave you until complete treatment
 
=== Remedies ===


* Both [[Gels, Gelsemium sempervirens|Gels]] and [[Stram, Stramonium|Stram]] has clinging. But the underlying reason is different.  
== Remedies ==
* [[Stram, Stramonium|Stram]] is freighted but [[Gels, Gelsemium sempervirens|Gels]] understands that you are an appropriate person and could help him.  
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* Also Gels need reassurance and it is enough for him to cling you.
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=== Rubrics ===
!Clinging
 
!Carried
* Clinging, Persons or furniture: Bar-c, Borx, Cina, Gels, Phos, Puls, Stram
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* Clinging, children, awaken, terrified: Borx, Stram
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* Carries desire: Cham, stram,
=== [[Stram in Sehgal|Stram]] ===
* Carries desire, fasr: Ars, bell, Verat
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* Carries desire, slowly: Puls
* [[Stram in Sehgal|Stram]] is [[Fright|freighted]] and that's why he clings you.
* Clinging, Children, Awakens terrified, knows NO one screams: He doe not even know you, but clings you without any logical reason.
|NO
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=== [[Gels in Sehgal|Gels]] ===
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* [[Gels in Sehgal|Gels]] understands that you are an appropriate person and could help him.  
* He wants positive light. He clings you because you told him that you can Help / Cure him.
* He clings you because of your assurance.
* So when you tell him that there is no cure, he will leave you. (Opposite to [[Stram in Sehgal|Stram]] , who clings you continuously)
* Gels need reassurance continuously.
* Clinging, Children, Grasps the nurse when carried child: (The point is "The nurse who carried him")
|NO
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=== [[Phos in Sehgal|Phos]] ===
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|NO
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=== [[Puls in Sehgal|Puls]] ===
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* Carried, Slowly
* Carried and Caressed
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=== [[Ars in Sehgal|Ars]] ===
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|Carried, Fast
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=== [[Bell in Sehgal|Bell]] ===
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* Carried, Fast
* Carried aversion to be
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=== [[Verat in Sehgal|Verat]] ===
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|Carried, Fast
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=== [[Bry in Sehgal|Bry]] ===
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|Carried aversion to be
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=== [[Cham in Sehgal|Cham]] ===
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* Carried and Caressed
* Carried aversion to be
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=== [[Cina in Sehgal|Cina]] ===
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* Not amel by carrying
* Carried aversion to be
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Latest revision as of 10:29, 1 December 2024

Definition

Cling

Sehgal First Degree Rubric

Carried

Sehgal Second Degree Rubric

  • In clinging he even not knows the doctor can cure him or not, He only knows the doctor from his friend recommendation or from advertisement
  • He has no idea of leaving you as long as his faith allows it. It is much more stronger than Carrying.
  • There is NO touch. There is no grasp
  • He only request someone to be with him
  • He asks the Doctor to cure him, since he thinks this doctor has good experience and so trustful.
  • He is attached to you like a sticker because
    • He is terrified
    • He has no more strength, he need serious help
    • He is magnetized to someone Energy/ Good behavior / God / Doctor
  • He asks to be carried continuously.
  • He does not do anything only begging.
  • He does not touch anybody only repeating his request
  • Carried uses "Desire" NOT "Want" which means fewer necessity.
Totally dependent and could not be alive dependently. Not so independent and should be carried by someone to reach some destination
Cling means the patient feels very insecure, which makes him cling to Someone / Something not necessarily for becoming but also for being Carry has a hide concept of moving but Cling has not. It means that the patient needs support for becoming or achieving a goal.
He clings your personality/ Specialty / Kindness / Energy. In this situation the patient insist on his desire and do not leave you even if you disclaim him Carried means Pulled, Pushed, Induced by an external stimuli such as Remedy / Advice / Doctor
I will not leave you until you make me better / Cure I do not know why, but I think you should cure me. You should give me a good medicine
Cling patient does not ask you, he come and do not leave you until complete treatment Patient request your treatment / Protection. So first he ask you then come to visit you
It has two sub-rubrics
  • Clinging, held: The patient praise you. He tells: You are the best doctor and he does not leave you until complete treatment.
  • Clinging, to persons or furniture Bar-c, Borx, Cina, Gels, Phos, Puls, Stram It differ from Clinging which has no extra words, which means the patient has not been located in the situation of clinging yet.
  • Clinging, children, awaken, terrified: Borx, Stram
Carried has sub-rubrics of Fast, Slow and Caressed. All of them linked with movement.
  • Carries desire: Ars, Bell, Cham, Cina, Kali-c, lyc, Puls, Stram, Sul, Verat
  • Carries desire, fast: Ars, bell, Verat
  • Carries desire, slowly: Puls
  • Carries desire and Caressed: Acon, Cham, Puls

Remedies

Clinging Carried

Stram

  • Stram is freighted and that's why he clings you.
  • Clinging, Children, Awakens terrified, knows NO one screams: He doe not even know you, but clings you without any logical reason.
NO

Gels

  • Gels understands that you are an appropriate person and could help him.
  • He wants positive light. He clings you because you told him that you can Help / Cure him.
  • He clings you because of your assurance.
  • So when you tell him that there is no cure, he will leave you. (Opposite to Stram , who clings you continuously)
  • Gels need reassurance continuously.
  • Clinging, Children, Grasps the nurse when carried child: (The point is "The nurse who carried him")
NO

Phos

NO

Puls

+++
  • Carried, Slowly
  • Carried and Caressed

Ars

Carried, Fast

Bell

  • Carried, Fast
  • Carried aversion to be

Verat

Carried, Fast

Bry

Carried aversion to be

Cham

  • Carried and Caressed
  • Carried aversion to be

Cina

  • Not amel by carrying
  • Carried aversion to be